Best Sushi in Seattle

topic posted Wed, February 9, 2005 - 10:41 PM by  Unsubscribed
I divide my time between Los Angeles and Seattle. When it comes to sushi, Seattle suffers by comparison. As is the case with Thai restaurants, sushi restaurants are ubiquitous in Seattle, but none of them, at least in my experience, can be considered outstanding. I think this is due largely to the relative lack of sophistication of the patrons of sushi restaurants in Seattle--mostly white people whose experience with sushi is of the California roll genre--compared to the predominantly Japanese patronage of the leading sushi restaurants in Los Angeles. Some of the better sushi restaurants in Seattle will serve you things like aji, ankimo, and mentaiko. But ask for engawa, kanimiso, or shirako, and you’ll likely get an astonished look, followed by the news that they don’t serve that. Seasonal specialties flown in from Japan, like fuki no tou, are also virtually impossible to get in Seattle. Some of the best sushi restaurants in Los Angeles only serve ankimo during the winter months, when the monkfish liver is at its best due to its high oil content. That said, some of the best sushi I’ve had in Seattle was at Sanmi Sushi in Magnolia. Although the selection was limited, the quality of the fish was excellent.

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    Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

    Thu, February 10, 2005 - 12:22 AM
    I agree with you that LA has better sushi. IMO it is because LA is much larger and does more business, and therefore attracts a larger market and demand for "more sophisticated" sushi.

    Have you actually tried ALL of the sushi joints in Seattle? There are quite a few of them. Some of the best ones are a bit obscure, IMO.

    Sushi joints all over the world can have fresh fish flown in from a supplier from just about anywhere in the world these days. The suppliers have to be willing to supply your area to get the service though.
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      Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

      Thu, February 10, 2005 - 9:44 AM
      i haven't tried out all the spots yet. i've been to shiro's, nishino, shiki, sanmi, wasabi bistro, i love sushi, kisaku, and musashi's. on my wishlist is saito's, mashiko, and fuji. are there any other spots you'd rec?

      and i want to clarify that my main beef with seattle sushi isn't the freshness. it has some of the best seafood in the nation. but i miss the vast selection and variety that l.a. offers.

      i am probably asking too much when i wish every time i get sushi that it be a mind blowing experience.
      • Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

        Thu, February 10, 2005 - 10:10 AM
        You really need to go try Mashiko before you write off Seattle's sushi scene as inferior to LA's. I moved here from the Bay Area and found that the quality and variety was much better in Seattle, partly because the Japanese fishes are more easily gotten here.
        The other difference I noticed when I moved north was that sushi is not such an everyday-dinner type thing, it's more of a special-treat thing, so perhaps the sushi places here don't have the sort of regular cash-dropping clientele to support buying/serving more obscure fishes.
        Angelenos in general seem to have more income to drop on eating out than Seattlites do, as we don't have scads of rich/famous people out marauding our restaurants on a daily basis. :)
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          Thu, February 10, 2005 - 10:12 AM
          BTW, I meant to say that Saito's is also one of my favorite sushi places in Seattle...all the Japanese Mariners players frequent the place, so it can't be all bad. :) Another spot to try is Toyoda up at 125th and Lake City Way.
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            Thu, February 10, 2005 - 1:52 PM
            I've been to Shiro's, Nishino, Saito, and Shiki and ordered omakase at each place (albeit, without advanced notice). As good as they were, they still lag behind what I've been able to get in LA.

            Like at Urasawa for instance...

            sanfrancisco.tribe.net/thread...0fe0d2e

            here's a gayot review with more pictures:
            www.gayot.com/restaurants...urasawa.html

            Actually, I think only Shiro's came close to what you can get at places like Nozawa in studio city or Wasabi in Tustin. Even surpassed them at times... one point in his favor is that he's a LOT friendlier than either Nozawa-san or Katsu-san.

            Some random observations...
            The appetizer dishes at Nishino kicked ass. I almost regretted it when they started dishing out the sushi.

            Saito-san was super nice, even gave me a map and the japanese yellow pages when I told him I was lost. Told me he doesn't serve fugu because you can't get the whole fish.

            Shiro-san said he opened the first sushi restaurant in seattle. He then proceeded to yell my last name really loud every so often.
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              Thu, February 10, 2005 - 2:58 PM
              Wow, if you think Shiro-san is friendly, I shudder to think what the chefs are like at LA sushi joints. Saito-san is my favorite sushi chef, though...he remembers me even though I only come in a couple of times a year these days. You definitely need to go to Mashiko and sit at the bar and chat with Hajime, the chef. He's definitely an inventive guy, and loves to say "shut up and eat", but that's as unfriendly as he gets.
              Granted, I have only ordered omakase at Mashiko here, but I effectively do that at Saito's, because he knows what I like.
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                Thu, February 10, 2005 - 6:02 PM
                Go to Chiso in Fremont. Tai-Chi, the owner and main sushi chef is awesome as is the sushi.
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                  Tue, February 15, 2005 - 1:16 PM
                  I second this. I thoroughly enjoyed the sushi there.
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                    Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

                    Fri, February 18, 2005 - 1:10 PM

                    Fucking hell.

                    Did no one else notice this fucking line from this (as I read it) uppity Michi chick?

                    < I think this is due largely to the relative lack of sophistication of the patrons of sushi restaurants in Seattle--mostly white people whose experience with sushi is of the California roll genre--compared to the predominantly Japanese patronage of the leading sushi restaurants in Los Angeles.>

                    Hey Michi. I have a great suggestion:

                    Instead of coming up here to the last outpost of civilization that we call Seattle, why not stay in LA where people can say such things and it is considered appropriate.

                    That said, I think that maybe you should start a thread asking where people are from, and you may just surprise yourself out of your little bubble to find out that 6 out of 10 Seattleites are not actually from Seattle.

                    Michi - there are only a half million people that live in Seattle, compared to around 4 million in the central LA areas, and 5 and some million in Manhattan. So, it should not surprise anyone that we are so uncivilized and "lack ... sophistication".

                    I mean, maybe you didn't mean that the way I read it, but calling us unsophisticated...? Puuuuuulease. Many of us moved here FROM places like LA, NYC or even Hong Kong, so your reasoning may be a bit off in this case.
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                      Fri, February 18, 2005 - 9:59 PM
                      Andrew said:

                      >Instead of coming up here to the last outpost of civilization that we call Seattle, why not stay in LA where people can say such things and it is considered appropriate. <

                      Woohoo!!!! Yeah, we're all a bunch of yahoos up here... derrrr, we must be stoooopid.
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                Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

                Fri, February 11, 2005 - 1:53 AM
                re: sushi nazis

                many people tolerate nozawa-san in the same way that nyc'ers tolerate the soup nazi... simply because it is that good. but i have a theory why places like that are so popular in los angeles, esp amongst the rich and powerful. it's similar to why it's almost always corporate execs that solicit the services of a dominatrix. these people order people around all day so it must be refreshing to go to dinner and be completely at the mercy of a fickle sushi chef.
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          Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

          Fri, February 11, 2005 - 2:02 AM
          haha you really are from the bay area. you guys tend to have a major superiority complex when comparing yourselves to l.a. :)

          anyhoo, for the most part, i like to dine at sushi restaurants that don't cater to celebrities. i still haven't been to matsuhisa or roku or any of those joints. my favorites when i was living there were the hump, tsukiji, shibucho, and tsukasa... places where japanese salarymen from nissan and toyota went.
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            Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

            Fri, February 11, 2005 - 6:08 AM
            Is it possible to load up on fresh sushi-grade fish for cheap in LA or the Bay area? In Seattle, you simply go down to Fisherman's Terminal and visit the boats right on the dock, and buy your fish. It's super cheap and fresh. For storage (if buying in large quantity for the best $$ deals), put the fish in water and freeze it entirely immersed in water (saltwater when caught is the best), and when you thaw it out it remains super fresh. A freezer pays for itself very quickly up here. Freezer burn is impossible when no air touches the fish. Fish literally lasts forever when stored this way.

            I don't ever recall being able to do that in LA, or the Bay area. And if you can, I'll bet the prices are much higher. I visit friends in LA and they never feed me fish down there, because they pay twice as much for the same thing they get here in Seattle. So I feed them fish when they visit me, instead.

            Making your own sushi for a fraction of the price is the way to go, IMO. I prefer an $8 sushi-grade albacore loin steak vs. a small bit of albacore for $4, for example. The best meals are made at home, when you know how to cook. I've only found a handful of dishes in U.S. restaurants that far exceed my enjoyment of my own cooking.

            Seattle practicality, or LA sophistication? I'll let you choose what's right for your lifestyle.

            Here are some Seattle links to fresh fish --

            www.tunatuna.com/wheretobuy.html

            www.wildsalmonseafood.com/

            www.fishermensnews.com/freshsheet.html

            www.mutualfish.com/
      • Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

        Fri, April 1, 2005 - 8:01 PM
        Mashiko usually runs about half a dozen or so sushi specials each day and three or so from the kitchen. you're probably not going to be staggered by the variety on one trip, but the specials constantly change so it's more geared to the regular customer-- And some weird stuff turns up. he often has the little fried river crabs, and will get in the live uni. I've only had sea cucumber at Mashiko, and once he had this long, skinny octopus that was tender enough to eat raw. Hajime said that they only come from the sea of japan and had no english name, and lord knows I can't remember the japanese name. Hajime has a loyal clientele of adventurous eaters.

        But you know, the magic of Mashiko isn't the weird stuff, that's just icing. it's the unusual combination of flavors that they pull off in omakase.

        If you go to Kisaku, note that they have a specials board, but it usually only lists the specials from the kitchen (which are good and creative). They have the regular stuff, and a small part of the menu that says "ask for availability", but then they always have a list of half a dozen things that aren't on the menu and are only mentioned if you ask. The server will always tell you about the appetizer specials, but you have to ask about the fish.

        I haven't has sushi in LA, so perhaps I am sheltered, but I think that the selection at Kisaku is pretty good, and usually better than that at Shiro's. Though perhaps Shiro might just not like me, since I rub wasabi on each piece and then make a burrito out of it with pickled ginger. Just kidding. Though I did once take a friend from out of town to Shiro's and he used the ginger as a topping on his fish, and got his ass chewed out. I should have sat us at the bar. I'd never even seen someone do that before.

        Anyhow, last time I was at Kisaku (3-4 weeks ago), they had pretty much everything on the "ask for availability" menu, including Aji, gizzard shad, and butter fish, the latter two of which I very rarely see. The Bonito and kampachi were outstanding. Off menu, they had moi, which I've only ever seen at yamasan in Bothell. and they had two types of raw squid. one were these little tender bite sized ones. Swordfish was off menu as well, and excellent.

        You might want to give Kisaku another try and grill them for the specials.
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          Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

          Sat, April 2, 2005 - 10:33 AM
          On another note, I should mention that the WELLINGTON has exceeded my sushi needs for the moment, and it's my favorite restaurant now. It's located on Rainer Ave. S. in Columbia City.

          Home-cooked real SOUTHERN cooking. My oh my, watch out for that sweet potatoe pie.
          • Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

            Thu, April 7, 2005 - 11:17 PM
            Just joined & wanted to add my recs for West Seattle
            I like both of these for different reasons

            Azuma Sushi
            informal, seems to be less expensive, got a huge assortment for $20
            4533 California Ave SW
            Seattle, WA 98116-4110
            206-937-1148

            Mashiko
            good, fancier, small, usually busy & crowded
            4725 California Ave SW
            Seattle, WA 98116
            206-935-4339
            www.sushiwhore.com/

            Anyone for sushi tomorrow night or over the weekend?
  • Re: Best Sushi in Seattle

    Tue, February 15, 2005 - 9:10 PM
    I think Chinoise on Madison is consistently great. Also, I recently had one of the best sushi dinners (with sushi lover friends who agreed) at Bonzai on First in Pioneer Square. They have some wonderfully creative rolls that I had not yet had in Seattle (and I've tried a whole lot of sushi in town). They have a good happy hour I think from 4-6:30 and late night with $3.00 rolls. It's the sister restaurant of Wasabi Bistro so they're big on that cream cheese in rolls thing which I don't like, but I highly recommend trying it out. The one downside I've consistently found is how terribly freezing it is inside and the general ambience. The service is good though and hopefully the sushi will be worth it.

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